Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 23

January 23

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 23, 2022.

Sivasspor S.K. (women's football)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was speedy delete. as a CSD G7. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:36, 24 January 2022 (UTC) Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:36, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sivasspor S.K. (women's football) → Sivasspor (women's football) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Procedural nomination. CeeGee moved the article to its current target and then twice incorrectly tried to nominate the current redirect for AfD (also without creating a proper AfD discussion page). I reverted the AfD tags and noted in an edit summary that this is the place to take it. They then RfD tagged the article but did not create a section here, so I am doing so in the name of cleanup. As for my own view, the move seems reasonable but I'm not sure at first glance whether this is a reasonable search term or whether there's a better title for the article proper. --Finngall ^talk 17:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for my incompotence. The reason for nominating the redirect for deletion is that the title is in error, which was my bad. The title repeates the "Sport", in Sivasspor and in S.K., which means "Spor Kulübü". In the end effect, the word "Spor" appears twice, and this is not correct. Also the club doas not use this title. I kindly ask to delete the mistyped title. Thanks for your support. CeeGee 18:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Tagged redirect with {{Db-g7}} per above. Steel1943 (talk) 20:39, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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OnlySimps

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 08:04, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OnlySimps → OnlyFans (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I don't see evidence of this being a widespread pejorative, and it appears that there is actually an unconnected site called onlysimps.io. Delete unless evidence of use can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – no doubt this has been used, but it seems to be a neologism. —AFreshStart (talk) 17:56, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: the creator gave an Ecosia link, and what it shows for me is zero uses of "OnlySimps", just pages that use both "OnlyFans" and "simps". A couple more searches show limited usage by online randos, but erring on the side of deletion for pejorative and sexual redirects seems right (they've certainly caused problems in the past). There is also the confusion with the unconnected site (or at least, if it's connected in some way then it's not mentioned in the article OnlyFans). — Bilorv (talk) 23:26, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as obscure synonym at best --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:56, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Irrelevant to the article, and not mentioned at target. 98.179.127.59 (talk) 01:40, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Donna Rhina

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 30#Donna Rhina

LYL

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 30#LYL

Civil Administrator

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The result of the discussion was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:03, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Civil Administrator → Civil Administrator of Mount Athos (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The expression does not mainly designate this specific administrator. See for example the expression being used in Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (p. 68), Translations on Sub-Saharan Africa, Issues 1379-1380 (p. 29), at fr:Administrateur civil (France), fr:Administrateur civil du Sénégal, and in multiple results on Google Scholar.
Since there is no proper target or primary topic, I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 00:17, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Civil administration is a redirect to Civil authority. Would that be appropriate here? - Eureka Lott 02:03, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment "Civil administrator" seems to be a very common title and job description, with examples from 13th century Mongolia, 19th century Puerto Rico, France, Colonial-era Cameroon and Seychelles, contemporary and British Canada, Russia, contemporary and colonial Australia, Mandatory Palestine and British India all from the first page of results. I'm thinking perhaps the best way forward might be to improve Administrator (disambiguation) and target this there? Thryduulf (talk) 16:36, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 02:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as ambiguous and likely to cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:44, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Primera Iglesia Baptista

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The result of the discussion was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:02, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Primera Iglesia Baptista → Church of the Nazarene (building, Casa Grande) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

None of the source I have been able to find on this building ([1] and [2]) call it "Primera Iglesia Baptista"; this is why I made a page move and now this redirect exists. I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 23:03, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A look at Street View reveals the tenant is the Primera Iglesia Bautista del Sur. Note the "u" in "Bautista" which is correct (not Baptista!). A search of the archives of the Casa Grande Dispatch reveals that this church has occupied the building since 1981. There is no article at Primera Iglesia Bautista ("First Baptist Church"), though it would likely become a major dabpage with Primera Iglesia Bautista de Caguas as an article and the First Presbyterian Church (Van Horn, Texas) which is now similarly occupied by a Spanish-speaking Baptist church. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:37, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unlikely synonym at best. Baptisa seems to be more of a misspelling of Baptisia (wild indigo) --Lenticel ^(talk) 05:42, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ground of locality

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 31#Ground of locality

Church Assembly Hall

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Assembly hall (disambiguation). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:01, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Church Assembly Hall → The Local Church (affiliation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of this expression at the target. I recomment deletion. Veverve (talk) 21:48, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Assembly hall (disambiguation) where the link to the target is explained and a list of specific buildings with this or a similar name be found. Thryduulf (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep In most cases, it seems to be used for the meaning used at the target, even if not in the target.Sarcelles (talk) 09:44, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarcelles: in any case if it is not present at the target, the redirect should be deleted. Feel free to add this designation in the article - with RSs supporting your claim - if you feel it fits. Veverve (talk) 13:42, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per Thryduulf. "Church assembly hall" is much more well-explained there. 98.179.127.59 (talk) 17:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Retarget per Thryduulf. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 05:00, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Assembly hall (disambiguation) per Thryduulf --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:05, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Carbon gas

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Carbon. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:00, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Carbon gas → Greenhouse gas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This was recently at RfD but was procedurally closed due to sock issues. Since there was no user in the previous discussion arguing to keep the redirect as is, I return it to RfD to reach consensus on how to handle it. As I argued previously, I lean toward deletion due to the ambiguity of the term, as most users likely seek a gas containing carbon such as carbon dioxide, methane, other greenhouse gases, or many others at list of gases, and there is no good target that captures the possibilities well. If we are to take redirect literally to refer to the element in a gas state, then Allotropes_of_carbon#Atomic_and_diatomic_carbon is a possible target, or as suggested previously Carbon#Characteristics gives a phase diagram and there are some mentions in the text. I strongly oppose simply targeting carbon, as most users would be quite unsatisfied reaching a page less specific than their search term. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:37, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment my preference is to target carbon, as gaseous carbon is found in the spectrum of stars, in the form of gas plasmas. If not that, then a set index to indicate other topics. A {{distinguish}} to gas carbon (soot) might be included -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 03:02, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Retarget to carbon (preferably to a subsection on its different phases), since that is what "carbon gas" literally refers to. There are lots of gases that merely contain carbon, many of which are not greenhouse gases -- doesn't make sense to me for this page to be a redirect there, that's kind of like redirecting round white pill to aspirin. jp×g 01:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 05:16, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete stupid redirect, there’s more than one carbon gas and not all of them are greenhouse gases. Not a plausible search term either— Reminds me of stupid disambigs and redirects like “shark incident” (either jumping the shark or shark attack, according to the creator) and “sexy actress” (which obviously is a perfect synonym to “porn actress”) Dronebogus (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Carbon per rationale of Nitrogen gas → Nitrogen, Oxygen gas → Oxygen, Chlorine gas → Chlorine, etc. These redirects already exist as a proper redirect with the keyword "gas". Also create a hatnote that say ""Carbon gas" redirects here.". We also look for some toxic gases like Hydrogen cyanide gas, Phosgene gas, Phosphine gas, Sarin gas, etc. There are quite plausible search term! Note that Mustard gas is already a well-known coined term containing "gas", known as a blister agent used in chemical warfare; Water gas is a different target from water vapor. The IPs also requested some redirects containing "gas" via Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories like Soman gas, Acrolein gas, Iodine gas, Arsine gas, and many more. There are quite plausible and appropriate target too. We don't have some redirects like Sulfur gas and Mercury gas since they are not as plausible search terms and are relatively rare. 2405:9800:BA31:F6:842D:5337:9419:17C (talk) 06:51, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As I said in the previous RfD, nitrogen, oxygen, and chlorine are all gases in their elemental states, so those redirects make sense, which is not the case for carbon. Carbon is only a gas at very extreme temperatures. And anyone seeking information about carbon as a gas would be disappointed to reach the top of the carbon article. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:29, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Gas carbon, since it is what anyone actually searching "Carbon gas" must be looking for. Also, add hatnotes with links to Greenhouse gas & also to Carbon. ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 08:37, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I very much doubt that gas carbon must be what anyone searching the term is seeking, and if that were true, hatnotes wouldn't be necessary. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:29, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:54, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Carbon. Notwithstanding "anyone seeking information about carbon as a gas would be disappointed to reach the top of the carbon article", it's the right place, with wikilinks to other possibilities. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Gravel president

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 08:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gravel president → Mike Gravel 2008 presidential campaign (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Gravel President → Mike Gravel 2008 presidential campaign (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Mike Gravel President → Mike Gravel 2008 presidential campaign (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A follow-up to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 5#President Gravel, these also imply a "President Gravel", which he never served as. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 04:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It’s misleading. I would also recommend that an entry for Bar president Barr president as a follow up to the similar Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 8#President bar.--65.93.195.118 (talk) 20:07, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 24#Bar president. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:42, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per nom. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Giurtelecu Şimleului Jewish Cemetery

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 29#Giurtelecu Şimleului Jewish Cemetery